
John PORTER
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- 1  John PORTER [1]  b. 5 Feb 1795 d. 29 Apr 1858
  Elizabeth MCDONALD  b. 14 Feb 1793 d. 12 Jul 1847
- 2  Mary PORTER [1.1]   
 b. 18 Jun 1814  
                 - 2  John PORTER [1.2]   
 b. Jun 1816 d. 7 Aug 1841
                 - 2  William PORTER [1.3]   
 b. Aug 1817 d. 12 Oct 1870
                    
  Janet L WATT  b. Abt 1826 d. Yes, date unknown
- 3  John PORTER [1.3.1]   
 b. 10 Nov 1844 d. Yes, date unknown
                                    - +  Mary Ann MOULTON   d. Yes, date unknown
 
 - +  Mary Ann MOULTON   d. Yes, date unknown
 - 3  Isabella Maria PORTER [1.3.2]   
 b. 2 Mar 1847 d. 21 Aug 1885
                                    
  John MCCLELLAN  b. 1839 d. 25 Feb 1899
- 4  John MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.1]   
 b. 10 May 1868 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                    
  Margaret LITTLE  b. Abt 1873 d. Abt 1907
- 5  Thomas Wilfred MCLELLAN [1.3.2.1.1]   
 b. 19 Jun 1897 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                 - 5  Margaret Isabella MCLELLAN [1.3.2.1.2]   
 b. 20 Aug 1898 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                 - 5  John MCLELLAN [1.3.2.1.3]   
 b. 14 Jun 1900 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                 - 5  Walter Allan MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.1.4]   
 b. 31 Aug 1902 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                 - 5  Jean Elizabeth MCLELLAN [1.3.2.1.5]   
 b. 21 Jun 1904 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                 
- 5  Thomas Wilfred MCLELLAN [1.3.2.1.1]   
 
 - 4  Ann MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.2]   
 b. 25 Sep 1869 d. 1952
                                                    - +  Peter C MCLAREN  b. 7 Mar 1864 d. 1937
 
 - +  Peter C MCLAREN  b. 7 Mar 1864 d. 1937
 - 4  Janet Maria MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.3]   
 b. 13 Jan 1870 d. 24 Jan 1882
                                                 - 4  William MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.4]   
 b. 14 Jul 1873 d. 22 Jul 1925
                                                    
  Martha Jane LITTLE  b. 30 Jan 1875 d. 6 Feb 1935
- 5  Isabella Marguerite MCLELLAN [1.3.2.4.1]   
 b. 27 Apr 1901 d. 27 Feb 1908
                                                                 - 5  Eva Janet MCLELLAN [1.3.2.4.2]   
 b. 20 Jan 1903 d. 20 Oct 1987
                                                                    
  Frederick John ROSS  b. 1 Jul 1899 d. 13 Mar 1990
- 6  Marjorie Loella ROSS [1.3.2.4.2.1]   
 b. 29 Dec 1927 d. Oct 12 2012
                                                                                    - +  William Vernon FERGUSON  b. 21 Oct 1923 d. 8 Apr 1998
 
 - +  William Vernon FERGUSON  b. 21 Oct 1923 d. 8 Apr 1998
 - 6  Helen Elizabeth 'Betty' ROSS [1.3.2.4.2.2]   
 b. 27 Sep 1930 d. 16 May 2006
                                                                                    - +  Richard Cecil WOOD  b. 17 May 1930 d. 8 Mar 2019
 
 - +  Richard Cecil WOOD  b. 17 May 1930 d. 8 Mar 2019
 - 6  Living [1.3.2.4.2.3]   
 
                                                                                    - +  Dr. William Edwin HUGLI  b. 29 Jun 1928 d. 1 Mar 1996
 
 - +  Dr. William Edwin HUGLI  b. 29 Jun 1928 d. 1 Mar 1996
 
- 6  Marjorie Loella ROSS [1.3.2.4.2.1]   
 
 - 5  Annie Elizabeth MCLELLAN [1.3.2.4.3]   
 b. 22 Jun 1909 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                    - +  Earl Roy REYNOLDS  b. Abt 1899 d. 25 Jan 1975
 - +  Harry B PARTRIDGE   d. Yes, date unknown
 
 - +  Earl Roy REYNOLDS  b. Abt 1899 d. 25 Jan 1975
 - 5  Helen Gertrude MCLELLAN [1.3.2.4.4]   
 b. Sep 1910 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                    - +  Carl ABLESON   d. Yes, date unknown
 
 - +  Carl ABLESON   d. Yes, date unknown
 
- 5  Isabella Marguerite MCLELLAN [1.3.2.4.1]   
 
 - 4  Archibald Thomas MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.5]   
 b. 23 Apr 1875 d. Jan 1934
                                                    
  Elizabeth LITTLE  b. 11 Jan 1879 d. 25 Sep 1942
- 5  Florence Evelyn MCLELLAN [1.3.2.5.1]   
 b. 8 Jul 1908 d. Oct 1965
                                                                    
                                                                 - 5  Mabel Margaret MCLELLAN [1.3.2.5.2]   
 b. 3 Nov 1912 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                    - +  James RODGERS   d. Yes, date unknown
 
 - +  James RODGERS   d. Yes, date unknown
 - 5  Marian Elizabeth MCLELLAN [1.3.2.5.3]   
 b. 29 Dec 1913 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                    - +  Donald RISK   d. Yes, date unknown
 
 - +  Donald RISK   d. Yes, date unknown
 - 5  Harvey William MCLELLAN [1.3.2.5.4]   
 b. 20 Jul 1917 d. 21 Oct 1979
                                                                 - 5  Irvin Archibald MCLELLAN [1.3.2.5.5]   
 b. 1920 d. 23 Oct 1920
                                                                 
- 5  Florence Evelyn MCLELLAN [1.3.2.5.1]   
 
 - 4  Jane MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.6]   
 b. 25 Dec 1876 d. Jun 26,  1958
                                                    
  John James Campbell MCLEAN  b. 18 Dec 1878 d. 1951
- 5  Allan John MCLEAN [1.3.2.6.1]   
 b. 28 Aug 1916 d. 4 Nov 1986
                                                                 - 5  Isabel MCLEAN [1.3.2.6.2]   
 b. Mar 1908 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                 - 5  Ronald Alexander MCLEAN [1.3.2.6.3]   
 b. 12 Aug 1909 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                 - 5  Marguerite Elizabeth MCLEAN [1.3.2.6.4]   
 b. 26 Sep 1914 d. 13 Feb 1995
                                                                    
  Arthur Roy JOHNSON  b. 5 Mar 1893 d. 16 Dec 1948
- 6  Royla Eleanor JOHNSON [1.3.2.6.4.1]   
 b. 4 Feb 1944 d. 18 Feb 1944
                                                                                 - 6  Allan McLean JOHNSON [1.3.2.6.4.2]   
 b. 1936 d. 25 Jan 1998
                                                                                    - +  Susan J. KEUTSCH  b. 1944 d. 11 Nov 2004
 
 - +  Susan J. KEUTSCH  b. 1944 d. 11 Nov 2004
 - 6  Isabel JOHNSON [1.3.2.6.4.3]   
 b. 1939 d. 2019
                                                                                    - +  Living  
 
 - +  Living  
 - 6  June F. JOHNSON [1.3.2.6.4.4]   
 b. 1940 d. 20 Feb 2003
                                                                                    - +  Living  
 
 - +  Living  
 - 6  Living [1.3.2.6.4.5]   
 
                                                                                    - +  Living  
 
 - +  Living  
 - 6  Living [1.3.2.6.4.6]   
 
                                                                                 
- 6  Royla Eleanor JOHNSON [1.3.2.6.4.1]   
 
 
- 5  Allan John MCLEAN [1.3.2.6.1]   
 
 - 4  Richard MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.7]   
 b. 1878 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                 - 4  Isabella Moriah MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.8]   
 b. 7 Dec 1878 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                 - 4  Dr. Daniel MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.9]   
 b. 10 Nov 1880 d. Aft 1953
                                                 - 4  Margaret Elizabeth MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.10]   
 b. 19 Aug 1882 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                    - +  William MCJANET   d. Yes, date unknown
 
 - +  William MCJANET   d. Yes, date unknown
 - 4  Dr. Allan MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.11]   
 b. 7 May 1885 d. 21 Jan 1910
                                                    - +  Norma Evelyn WRIGHT  b. 13 Jul 1888 d. 15 Feb 1952
 
 - +  Norma Evelyn WRIGHT  b. 13 Jul 1888 d. 15 Feb 1952
 - 4  Isabella Maria MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.12]   
 b. 7 May 1885 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                    
  Daniel Burton STEWART  b. Abt 1876 d. Yes, date unknown
- 5  Annie Jeannette STEWART [1.3.2.12.1]   
 b. 17 Mar 1913 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                 
- 5  Annie Jeannette STEWART [1.3.2.12.1]   
 
 
- 4  John MCCLELLAND [1.3.2.1]   
 
 - 3  Thomas PORTER [1.3.3]   
 b. 23 Sep 1849 d. Yes, date unknown
                                    
  Ellen KINCELLA   d. Yes, date unknown
- 4  William James PORTER [1.3.3.1]   
 b. 7 Mar 1880 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                 
- 4  William James PORTER [1.3.3.1]   
 
 - 3  Margaret A PORTER [1.3.4]   
 b. 20 Nov 1852 d. Yes, date unknown
                                    - +  Arthur J TAYLOR   d. Yes, date unknown
 
 - +  Arthur J TAYLOR   d. Yes, date unknown
 - 3  William PORTER [1.3.5]   
 b. 1 Dec 1857 d. 31 Jan 1860
                                 - 3  William PORTER [1.3.6]   
 b. 31 May 1860 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  Mary Jane Byers PORTER [1.3.7]   
 b. 26 Jan 1863 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  Janet PORTER [1.3.8]   
 b. 5 May 1865 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  Jessie PORTER [1.3.9]   
 b. Abt 1868 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  George Alexander PORTER [1.3.10]   
 b. 1868 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  Elizabeth PORTER [1.3.11]   
 b. 14 Nov 1855 d. 5 Mar 1946
                                    
  James Bennie COMRIE  b. 31 Oct 1846 d. 10 Jul 1931
- 4  Laura Mabel COMRIE [1.3.11.1]   
 b. 27 May 1882 d. 25 Aug 1966
                                                    - +  James MCKENDRY   d. 16 Feb 1966
 
  Charles Henry ROCHE  b. 15 Feb 1877 d. 17 Mar 1940
- 5  Elizabeth Fanny ROCHE [1.3.11.1.1]   
 b. 2 Jun 1904 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                    
  John Gilbert MARKS   d. Yes, date unknown
- 6  Robbie MARKS [1.3.11.1.1.1]   
   
                                                                                 
- 6  Robbie MARKS [1.3.11.1.1.1]   
 
 - 5  Roy Henry ROCHE [1.3.11.1.2]   
 b. 1 Apr 1906 d. 1 Jan 1979
                                                                    
  Gladys Irene DAVIS  b. 10 Jun 1913 d. 2 Dec 2010
- 6  Ronald ROCHE [1.3.11.1.2.1]   
   
                                                                                 - 6  Brian ROCHE [1.3.11.1.2.2]   
   
                                                                                 - 6  Diane ROCHE [1.3.11.1.2.3]   
   
                                                                                 
- 6  Ronald ROCHE [1.3.11.1.2.1]   
 
 - 5  Laura Mabel ROCHE [1.3.11.1.3]   
 b. 20 Jun 1908 d. 2 Jul 1946
                                                                 
- 5  Elizabeth Fanny ROCHE [1.3.11.1.1]   
 
 - +  James MCKENDRY   d. 16 Feb 1966
 - 4  Robert Bennie COMRIE [1.3.11.2]   
 b. 26 Jun 1884 d. 10 Jul 1949
                                                    
  Elizabeth Jeanie Guthrie TAPLIN  b. 4 Nov 1895 d. 6 Jan 1986
- 5  Robert Taplin COMRIE [1.3.11.2.1]   
 b. 19 Jul 1920 d. 8 Oct 2007
                                                                    - +  Irene Muriel SPROULE  b. 15 Aug 1915 d. 2 Jun 2017
 
 - +  Irene Muriel SPROULE  b. 15 Aug 1915 d. 2 Jun 2017
 - 5  George Alfred COMRIE [1.3.11.2.2]   
 b. 17 Nov 1922 d. 22 Dec 2009
                                                                    - +  Lorraine Florence ANDERS  b. 5 Jan 1923 d. 11 Oct 2006
 
 - +  Lorraine Florence ANDERS  b. 5 Jan 1923 d. 11 Oct 2006
 - 5  Audrey Jean COMRIE [1.3.11.2.3]   
 b. Abt 1930 d. 1972
                                                                    - +  M. George NICHOL  b. 29 Dec 1927 d. 13 Oct 2013
 
 - +  M. George NICHOL  b. 29 Dec 1927 d. 13 Oct 2013
 
- 5  Robert Taplin COMRIE [1.3.11.2.1]   
 
 - 4  Jessie Margaret COMRIE [1.3.11.3]   
 b. 14 Dec 1886 d. 22 Feb 1963
                                                    
  John Edward STEWART  b. 29 Nov 1887 d. 1961
- 5  Muriel STEWART [1.3.11.3.1]   
 b. 1916 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                    
                                                                 - 5  Laura STEWART [1.3.11.3.2]   
 b. 1919 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                    
                                                                 - 5  Joyce STEWART [1.3.11.3.3]   
 b. 1927 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                    
                                                                 
- 5  Muriel STEWART [1.3.11.3.1]   
 
 - 4  George Porter COMRIE [1.3.11.4]   
 b. 2 Apr 1888 d. 15 Aug 1919
                                                 - 4  William James COMRIE [1.3.11.5]   
 b. 10 Mar 1891 d. 14 Jan 1946
                                                 - 4  Harriet COMRIE [1.3.11.6]   
 b. 19 Nov 1893 d. 26 Nov 1978
                                                    
  Sgt. James M. MCCAWLEY  b. Abt 1887 d. 27 Jan 1978
- 5  Dr. James Comrie MCCAWLEY [1.3.11.6.1]   
 b. 13 Aug 1922 d. 25 Feb 2010
                                                                    
                                                                 - 5  Jack Douglas MCCAWLEY [1.3.11.6.2]   
 b. 17 Jan 1924 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                    
                                                                 - 5  Sheila Doreen MCCAWLEY [1.3.11.6.3]   
 b. 3 Dec 1928 d. 7 Mar 2016
                                                                    
                                                                 - 5  Iris Beth MCCAWLEY [1.3.11.6.4]   
 b. Abt 1930 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                                    
                                                                 
- 5  Dr. James Comrie MCCAWLEY [1.3.11.6.1]   
 
 
- 4  Laura Mabel COMRIE [1.3.11.1]   
 
 
- 3  John PORTER [1.3.1]   
 
 - 2  ? PORTER [1.4]   
 b. Nov 1818 d. Sep 1821
                 - 2  Ellizabeth PORTER [1.5]   
 b. 25 Feb 1820 d. 18 Sep 1877
                    
  Hugh CARMICHAEL  b. 1816 d. 17 Jul 1864
- 3  Mary Elizabeth CARMICHAEL [1.5.1]   
 b. Jan 1847 d. 22 Jul 1848
                                 - 3  Elizabeth CARMICHAEL [1.5.2]   
 b. 21 Jul 1849 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  John Alexander CARMICHAEL [1.5.3]   
 b. Abt 1850 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  Duncan A CARMICHAEL [1.5.4]   
 b. Abt 1852 d. Yes, date unknown
                                    - +  Mary SKEAD   d. Yes, date unknown
 
 - +  Mary SKEAD   d. Yes, date unknown
 - 3  Hugh Andrew CARMICHAEL [1.5.5]   
 b. Abt 1856 d. Yes, date unknown
                                    
  Harriet E. EGGLESTON  b. 23 Oct 1858 d. 13 Jun 1880
- 4  Allan CARMICHAEL [1.5.5.1]   
 b. 13 Feb 1880 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                 
- 4  Allan CARMICHAEL [1.5.5.1]   
 
 - 3  James Wilson CARMICHAEL [1.5.6]   
 b. Abt 1859 d. 2 Sep 1901
                                    
  Elizabeth KEYES  b. 1 Jan 1858 d. 26 Sep 1886
- 4  Hugh Harold CARMICHAEL [1.5.6.1]   
 b. 17 Mar 1881 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                 - 4  Elizabeth Rosalia CARMICHAEL [1.5.6.2]   
 b. 8 Nov 1882 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                    - +  Albert Edward MCDONALD  b. 20 Jun 1878 d. 21 Feb 1962
 
 - +  Albert Edward MCDONALD  b. 20 Jun 1878 d. 21 Feb 1962
 
- 4  Hugh Harold CARMICHAEL [1.5.6.1]   
 - +  Sarah BIGGS  b. 1 Jan 1867 d. 7 May 1925
 
 - 3  Thomas David CARMICHAEL [1.5.7]   
 b. Abt 1862 d. Yes, date unknown
                                    
  Margaret Catherine MENZIES  b. Abt 1853 d. 16 Mar 1939
- 4  Mary Elizabeth CARMICHAEL [1.5.7.1]   
 b. 17 Aug 1888 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                 - 4  Hugh Archibald CARMICHAEL [1.5.7.2]   
 b. 11 May 1890 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                 - 4  Duncan Alexander CARMICHAEL [1.5.7.3]   
 b. 7 May 1892 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                 - 4  Clifford Menzies CARMICHAEL [1.5.7.4]   
 b. 27 Mar 1896 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                 - 4  Thomas Kenneth CARMICHAEL [1.5.7.5]   
 b. 1 Aug 1898 d. Yes, date unknown
                                                 
- 4  Mary Elizabeth CARMICHAEL [1.5.7.1]   
 
 - 3  Jane E CARMICHAEL [1.5.8]   
 b. 20 Aug 1853 d. 24 Jul 1856
                                 - 3  Allen G. CARMICHAEL [1.5.9]   
 b. 4 Apr 1856 d. 31 Jul 1856
                                 
- 3  Mary Elizabeth CARMICHAEL [1.5.1]   
 
 - 2  James PORTER [1.6]   
 b. 1827 d. Yes, date unknown
                    - +  LYDIA   d. Yes, date unknown
 
 - +  LYDIA   d. Yes, date unknown
 - 2  Thomas Mcguffog PORTER [1.7]   
 b. Abt 1829 d. 3 Oct 1843
                 - 2  Mary PORTER [1.8]   
 b. 24 Mar 1830 d. Yes, date unknown
                 - 2  Alexander PORTER [1.9]   
 b. 4 Oct 1831 d. 21 Sep 1914
                    
  Catherine WILSON  b. 11 Jan 1839 d. 5 Sep 1929
- 3  John James PORTER [1.9.1]   
 b. 29 Mar 1862 d. 6 Aug 1924
                                 - 3  William PORTER [1.9.2]   
 b. 26 Dec 1864 d. 22 Mar 1941
                                 - 3  Alexander PORTER [1.9.3]   
 b. 6 Oct 1866 d. 21 Nov 1930
                                 - 3  Alice PORTER [1.9.4]   
 b. 9 Feb 1867 d. 27 Mar 1962
                                 - 3  Albert Edward PORTER [1.9.5]   
 b. Abt 1869 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  Henry Alexander PORTER [1.9.6]   
 b. 12 Mar 1870 d. 1960
                                    - +  Charlotte Jane   d. Yes, date unknown
 
 - +  Charlotte Jane   d. Yes, date unknown
 - 3  Robert Andrew PORTER [1.9.7]   
 b. 20 Oct 1871 d. 25 Sep 1945
                                    
                                             - 4  Hattie Elinor PORTER [1.9.7.1]   
 b. 20 Dec 1915  
                                                    
                                                 
- 4  Hattie Elinor PORTER [1.9.7.1]   
 
 - 3  Herbert Thomas PORTER [1.9.8]   
 b. 24 Mar 1874  
                                 - 3  Walter PORTER [1.9.9]   
 b. 4 Dec 1875  
                                 - 3  Female PORTER [1.9.10]   
 b. 30 Nov 1877 d. 30 Nov 1877
                                 - 3  Clara PORTER [1.9.11]   
 b. 10 Feb 1879 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  George PORTER [1.9.12]   
 b. Feb 1881 d. 1967
                                 - 3  Addie PORTER [1.9.13]   
 b. 8 Nov 1884 d. 1903
                                 
- 3  John James PORTER [1.9.1]   
 
 - 2  David PORTER [1.10]   
 b. 1834 d. 1891
                    
  Mary Helen COMRIE  b. 8 Nov 1840 d. 11 Dec 1881
- 3  Catherine Elizabeth PORTER [1.10.1]   
 b. 18 Oct 1867 d. 24 Sep 1940
                                    
  John Boland Findlay WATT  b. 25 Dec 1865 d. 24 Sep 1939
- 4  Dr. William Gordon WATT [1.10.1.1]   
 b. 31 Jan 1906 d. 22 May 1974
                                                    - +  Lillian Alma ALKENBRACK  b. 19 Oct 1908 d. 4 Sep 1986
 
 - +  Lillian Alma ALKENBRACK  b. 19 Oct 1908 d. 4 Sep 1986
 - 4  Edward Porter WATT [1.10.1.2]   
 b. 1908 d. 11 May 1994
                                                    - +  Jean Alexander WILSON  b. 1911 d. 200
 
 - +  Jean Alexander WILSON  b. 1911 d. 200
 
- 4  Dr. William Gordon WATT [1.10.1.1]   
 
 - 3  Mary Ellen PORTER [1.10.2]   
 b. 18 Jun 1873 d. 20 Mar 1882
                                 - 3  Willmetta Jane PORTER [1.10.3]   
 b. 1875 d. 26 Apr 1955
                                 
- 3  Catherine Elizabeth PORTER [1.10.1]   
 
 - 2  Jane PORTER [1.11]   
 b. 15 Dec 1836 d. Yes, date unknown
                    
  James DYKE  b. 1823 d. Yes, date unknown
- 3  James Andrew DYKE [1.11.1]   
 b. 1855 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  Elizabeth M DYKE [1.11.2]   
 b. 1857 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  Beatrice M DYKE [1.11.3]   
 b. 1861 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  Herbert E DYKE [1.11.4]   
 b. 1863 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  Gertrude L DYKE [1.11.5]   
 b. 1865 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  Arthur L DYKE [1.11.6]   
 b. 1867 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 - 3  Hilda Jane DYKE [1.11.7]   
 b. Dec 1870 d. Yes, date unknown
                                 
- 3  James Andrew DYKE [1.11.1]   
 
 - 2  George PORTER [1.12]   
 b. 1838 d. Yes, date unknown
                    - +  Mary A WILSON  b. Abt 1838 d. Yes, date unknown
 
 - +  Mary A WILSON  b. Abt 1838 d. Yes, date unknown
 
- 2  Mary PORTER [1.1]   
 - +  Janet Sarah GLEN  b. 1796 d. Yes, date unknown
 
 
